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Friday, October 31, 2014

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Ammammata <ammammata@tiscalinet.it>: Oct 31 11:10AM

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"$Bill" <news@todbe.com>: Oct 31 07:28PM -0700

96 112
 
And then of to GSW for the 2nd BTB.
 
I actually liked last years O a lot better than this year so far.
I'm a believer in the "don't shoot 15-20 foot shots" - take it in
for a dunk/layup/very short bank shot or take it out for the 3 and
the bonus point.
"$Bill" <news@todbe.com>: Oct 31 04:43PM -0700

NBA: http://www.nba.com/games/20141031/LACLAL/gameinfo.html
 
Clippers-Lakers Preview (20141031)
By JORDAN GARRETSON Posted Oct 31 2014 3:24AM
 
The Los Angeles Clippers didn't exactly look the part of a Finals contender
in their opener against a short-handed team. They'll aim for a better
showing - particularly from 3-point range - when they take on another
underwhelming roster in Friday night's matchup with the Lakers.
 
The Clippers started their season by enacting some revenge for their
Western Conference semifinal loss with Thursday's 93-90 home win over
Oklahoma City in their first game under new owner Steve Ballmer.
 
Blake Griffin and Chris Paul scored 23 and 22 points, respectively, going a
combined 17 for 36 from the field. Their teammates were 17 for 51,
including 6 of 27 from 3-point range with J.J. Redick and Jamal Crawford
combining to go 3 for 15.
 
The Clippers were especially unimpressive considering the Thunder were
without Kevin Durant and lost Russell Westbrook to a broken hand in the
second quarter. They surrendered a career-high 32 points to Perry Jones and
were outrebounded 47-33, never leading by more than 10 in a performance
described as "pretty ugly" by coach Doc Rivers.
 
"What I was proud of, they kept fighting defensively," Rivers said. "I
don't know that we win this game last year."
 
The Clippers will be heavy favorites Friday as they seek an eighth win in
nine meetings with the Lakers (0-2). The last five victories came by an
average of 22.0 points.
 
After allowing 109.2 points per game last season to rank 29th, the Lakers
are allowing 113.5 points through two games. Their 3-point defense was
nearly league average at 36.1 percent in 2013-14 but looks abysmal thus far
with opponents going 28 from 61 from deep. The Lakers, who are trying to
avoid opening 0-3 for the second time in three seasons, allowed Phoenix to
go 16 for 32 from beyond the arc in Wednesday's 119-99 road loss.
 
The Clippers, who shot 41.6 percent from 3-point range and averaged 122.0
points in four meetings last season, could also look to exploit the Lakers
in transition. The Clippers were second in the league with 18.6 fast-break
points per game in 2013-14 and outscored Oklahoma City 16-6, while the
Lakers have been outscored 41-25 in transition in two games. The Clippers
averaged 26.3 fast-break points against the Lakers last season.
 
Offense hasn't come easily either for the Lakers, who are shooting 39.4
percent including 7 of 23 from 3-point range. Kobe Bryant has scored 50
points but is 17 of 42 from the field. He scored 31 against the Suns on 25
shots in 28 minutes, while the rest of the starting lineup combined for 25
points. New addition Carlos Boozer was 2 for 6 and committed eight
turnovers.
 
"I told them we have to hang in there and stay together as a team," coach
Byron Scott said. "It is only two games."
 
Bryant didn't play against the Clippers last season but is averaging 30.6
points on 50.2 percent shooting his last 14 meetings.
 
Griffin averaged 25.3 points on 65.9 percent shooting in his last three
games against the Lakers while Paul is averaging 12.1 assists in his last
eight.
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Digest for rec.sport.football.college@googlegroups.com - 18 updates in 10 topics

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dnrapp <dnrapp@aol.com>: Oct 31 03:15PM -0700

Just to make MIA happy. I am half way to the pick 4 today, yes 2 favorites won the first 2 races. In the next race, the Juv Fillies I have the #2,4 and 9. In the final race The Distaff I have the #2,10 and 11.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Oct 31 03:48PM -0700

I don't follow horse racing, but are you seriously posting the horse equivalent of a 4 team parlay(?) 2 horses in? C'mon now.....rules of claiming credit for forum gambling picks is either post a ticket or pick the game ahead of time. If not(even if you hit a 6 teamer or whatever), it's not considered appropriate to post winners after th fact.
dnrapp <dnrapp@aol.com>: Oct 31 04:24PM -0700

On Friday, October 31, 2014 3:48:27 PM UTC-7, michael anderson wrote:
> I don't follow horse racing, but are you seriously posting the horse equivalent of a 4 team parlay(?) 2 horses in? C'mon now.....rules of claiming credit for forum gambling picks is either post a ticket or pick the game ahead of time. If not(even if you hit a 6 teamer or whatever), it's not considered appropriate to post winners after th fact.
 
since I made the bet as I was leaving for work in the morning and I got home form work just as the 2nd leg was loading posting here was not a top priority.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Oct 31 05:38PM -0700

Well of course....that's why you just don't post it period then. It's ok if a win or loss isn't documented on this forum
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Oct 31 05:35PM -0700

http://www.gq.com/long-form/the-great-paper-caper
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Oct 31 11:51AM -0700

That guy is a first class asshat.
mockinjay4@gmail.com: Oct 31 01:44PM -0700

On Friday, October 31, 2014 10:54:46 AM UTC-5, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11796360/dave-brandon-michigan-wolverines-ad-leaving-post
 
> Hoke is next
 
Les Miles
Benny Bauer <bennybauer123@gmail.com>: Oct 31 04:38PM -0700

Mike London
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Oct 31 03:39PM -0700

James- housing costs can't be broken down on a region by region basis. There is obviously some very expensive per sq foot property(much moreso than bham) in the Deep South, and plenty of really cheap property in parts of California for example.
 
Homewood isn't the most upscale part of birmingham by a good bit, but homes in good parts of homewood(Edgewood or Hollywood) that don't need any work and are updated are going to be at least 250-275 per sq foot.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Oct 31 03:40PM -0700

Nah xy people who care about impressions here move to mountain brook at least. I just want a nice comfortable place to live convenient to things.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Oct 31 01:01PM -0700

In article <eef5b868-a2f6-482b-b537-742090262da0@googlegroups.com>,
 
> They were interesting....liked the gray - not so much the fonts tho.
 
> Fun game - L'ville simply didn't have the horses to compete.
 
> FSU may not be as good as last year's team - that D is still suspect - but they're scary on offense when they get rolling - and say what you will, but Jameis Winston is a very, very good qb
 
So good that their weakness on the OL is overlooked.
 
--
Michael Press
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <Iamtj4life@gmail.com>: Oct 31 02:37PM -0700

On Friday, October 31, 2014 3:02:01 PM UTC-5, Michael Press wrote:
 
> > Fun game - L'ville simply didn't have the horses to compete.
 
> > FSU may not be as good as last year's team - that D is still suspect - but they're scary on offense when they get rolling - and say what you will, but Jameis Winston is a very, very good qb
 
> So good that their weakness on the OL is overlooked.
 
And on D too - but they've won 21 in a row - and not scored less than 30 during that run. Clearly flaws - but <schtick alert> THEY JUST KNOW HOW TO WIN, BABEEEEEEEEE
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Oct 31 01:04PM -0700

In article <aed6e55a-dd0c-4c59-b8db-8a4287ff46cd@googlegroups.com>,
 
> > He said he did not know who it was at first and had to use a flashlight application on his phone to find out, according to police. He said he soon realized it was his friend's wife with "her breasts exposed" who had put his penis in her mouth.
 
> > She was arrested three other times this month. She was collared for alleged theft Oct. 14, alleged assault Oct. 16 and alleged public intoxication Oct. 21.
 
> So instead of jumping out of bed, he grabbed his phone to see WHO was giving him a 'job before making a decision. No sense rushing to judgement till you see if she's an uggo.
 
How do you know she or he is not holding a weapon?
A second one, I mean.
 
--
Michael Press
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Oct 31 01:06PM

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:15:24 -0700, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
wrote:
 
>First you see that you need to know pi to a hundred decimal places,
 
Why stop at 100?
 
Hugh
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Oct 31 12:58PM -0700

In article <545388de.156074148@news.eternal-september.org>,
> wrote:
 
> >First you see that you need to know pi to a hundred decimal places,
 
> Why stop at 100?
 
Because I say so.
 
--
Michael Press
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Oct 31 11:24AM -0700

On Friday, October 31, 2014 12:34:34 PM UTC-5, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> On Friday, October 31, 2014 12:27:36 PM UTC-5, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> > Send these two community organizers to Ferguson. I'll be cooking popcorn...
 
> You're an evil man, Messr Hynes
 
:-)
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): Oct 31 01:17PM

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 05:14:30 -0700 (PDT), swangdb <swangdb@auburn.edu>
wrote:
 
>Don Imus said this morning that Auburn will win the Iron Bowl.
 
>Doomed by Imus.
 
I'll wait to hear the Cheesers advice on whether to invest in that
logic with the grocery money.
 
Hugh
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: Oct 30 01:59AM -0700

Weird to see Memphis picked to win these days. Also weird to see Troy in shambles.
 
As I'm typing, it's coincidence that both schools used to be _____ State.
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"yoyodog" <connarchNOSPAM@yahoo.com>: Oct 31 11:00AM -0400

Paraphrased from
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2247297-5-stats-that-should-make-the-montreal-canadiens-worried-moving-forward/page/2
 
The Habs just completed their three-game Western Canada road trip, taking
three out of a possible six points to end October.
 
So, as the calendar flips to November, enjoy this: The Montreal Canadiens
are first in the entire NHL with 17 points.
 
It has been a great start to the season for the Habs in the win column. And
one would assume that with an 8-2-1 record, the Canadiens shouldn't have
much to worry about statistically. But this isn't necessarily true. The
great start can quickly come to an ugly and abrupt end at any time if these
stats aren't corrected quickly,
 
When taking a further look at the Canadiens' stats, everything isn't as rosy
as it may seem on the surface. In fact, some of the stats are a little scary
and make you wonder how the Canadiens are, indeed, 8-2-1.
 
Here are five troublesome stats that the Montreal Canadiens should worry
about as they head into the second month of the NHL season.
 
1. A terrible Power Play
 
At this point in the season, the Montreal Canadiens are terrible on the
power play. There's just no other way to put it.
 
After being shut out with the man advantage on their entire West Coast road
trip, the Canadiens are now 3-for-32 this season. That's a paltry 9.4
percent.
 
On the road, the numbers look even uglier: 0-for-24.
 
So what's going on? Well, simply put, the Canadiens are far too predictable
with the man advantage.
 
The Habs get possession of the puck along the side boards and pass it back
to either P.K. Subban or Andrei Markov. Those two partner pass for a while,
looking for a lane, and when they find one they shoot.
 
While Subban and Markov might be two of the best power-play quarterbacks in
the league, teams are finding them easy to defend. They simply pressure one
D-man and get in the shooting lane of the other. This is forcing Subban and
Markov to either shoot wide or have their shots blocked.
 
They need to find other ways to score with the man advantage, and the one
guy they should be looking to is Max Pacioretty.
 
The Canadiens' 39-goal scorer does have one of the Habs' three power-play
goals this season, but overall, he's just not a big enough part of the
power-play attack. Pacioretty, like all of the Canadiens forwards on the PP,
is being used as more of a setup man instead of taking shots himself.
 
He's not getting into shooting lanes or scoring positions, and this has to
change. They need their top-scoring forward to be a legitimate threat with
the man advantage, and right now he's not.
 
If teams start to worry about Pacioretty on the power play, they'll be
forced to rearrange their short-handed scheme. This will, in turn, free up
Subban and Markov on the back end and should create a better all-around
power play.
 
So far in 2014-15, the Canadiens flat-out stink with the man advantage. This
is a troublesome stat, and one that needs to change if they want to have
continued success this season.
 
2. First Period Struggles
 
To say that the Montreal Canadiens are struggling in the first period so far
in 2014-15 would be a giant understatement. When you consider how bad
they've actually been through the first 20 minutes, it's actually incredible
that their record is 8-2-1.
 
Through 11 games, the Canadiens have allowed 11 goals against in the first
period. Now, that number in itself isn't awful. The problem is that the Habs
just aren't scoring in the first: They have just four goals through 20
minutes all season long.
 
And when they do score first, they're doing so just once. The Canadiens
scored singles against the Maple Leafs, Lightning, Bruins and Rangers.
That's it. They have yet to score multiple first-period goals in 2014-15.
 
Their lack of first-period scoring also means that they haven't led after
the first period all season long. In fact, they have been trailing at the
first intermission in six of 11 games.
 
For whatever reason, the Canadiens are having a hard time with their starts
this season. They just can't seem to bring a lead into the locker room
through 20 minutes. The Habs need to focus on being better in the first
period moving forward.
 
3. Penalties
 
The Canadiens are taking way too many penalties this season.
 
Here's a stat no one would've predicted before the season: After the first
month of the NHL season, the Montreal Canadiens are tied for the league lead
in minor penalties taken.
 
That's right—the skilled, speedy Habs have taken 52 minor penalties already
this season, which ties them with the Colorado Avalanche for the league
lead. Having played 11 games, this Canadiens are averaging 4.7 two-minute
trips to the penalty box per game.
 
This number is way too high.
 
Luckily, the Habs have been bailed out by an excellent penalty-killing unit
that ranks seventh in the league at 86.7 percent. That group has allowed
just six power-play goals against and has even scored once shorthanded.
 
But taking so many penalties is bound to get you in trouble, as it did
against Vancouver on Thursday night, where Tom Gilbert's unnecessary
interference in the offensive zone led to a Daniel Sedin power-play
game-winner.
 
The NHL is a league where special teams are often the difference between
wins and losses. While they've had excellent penalty killing to begin the
2014-15 season, the Canadiens are playing with fire by taking so many minor
penalties. They need to find ways to stay out of the box as the season heads
into November.
 
4. Allowing the 1st Goal
 
The Canadiens' road trip in Western Canada continued an alarming trend for
the team this season: allowing the opponent to score the first goal.
 
The Edmonton Oilers scored first. As did the Calgary Flames and then the
Vancouver Canucks. In fact, six of Montreal's eight other opponents have
also managed to score the first goal against the Habs this season.
 
For those counting, that's nine out of 11. The only times Montreal has
scored first this season were against the Toronto Maple Leafs on opening
night and then against the New York Rangers 17 days later.
 
This means that the Canadiens have been playing from behind in 81.8 percent
of their games so far this season. Unbelievably, they've somehow managed to
turn that stat into eight wins, 17 points and first place in the entire NHL
(after games on October 30).
 
Credit has to go out to the players for their resilience. They obviously
believe that they're never out of a game and that they have the ability to
score late.
 
But this is not a trend that the Canadiens want to continue. They're not
going to be able to pull off comebacks like the ones in Calgary and
Vancouver each and every night. Allowing the other team to score first is
just not a recipe to success in the National Hockey League.
 
Being scored upon first 81.8 percent of the time is a very alarming
statistic, one that will eventually lead to losses if the Habs don't improve
on it. They need to start playing better early in games.
 
5. Goals
 
The Montreal Canadiens are winning games, so they must be scoring lots of
goals, right? Wrong. Very wrong.
 
After 11 games, the Canadiens have just 26 total goals. Their average goals
per game of 2.36 ranks them 24th in the NHL.
 
How bad is that number? Just look at the teams who are scoring less, on
average, than the Habs: Calgary, Los Angeles, Winnipeg, Carolina, Florida
and Buffalo.
 
With the exception of the Kings, who are obviously having goal-scoring
problems of their own, that is not a bunch of NHL teams that you want to be
grouped with unless you're hoping to secure the No. 1 overall pick at the
entry draft.
 
With Carey Price in goal, there's an obvious magic number of three goals per
game for the Canadiens. Get three goals, and Price, with his 2.48
goals-against average, will usually get you the win.
 
This season, the Canadiens have scored three goals five times—all wins.
They've scored more than three just twice: four against Toronto and six
against Boston.
 
This means that in six of 11 games (54.5 percent), the Habs are scoring less
than three goals.
 
Scoring three goals a game isn't an easy thing to do in the NHL, and it's
not going to happen every night. But it can be done a majority of the time,
and this is what the Canadiens need to strive to do.
 
If the Canadiens can score three or more goals in more than half of their
games moving forward, they'll continue to be a winning team. But their
current pace of 2.48 goals per game just isn't good enough. It needs to be
improved upon.
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: Oct 31 08:26AM -0700

On Friday, October 31, 2014 11:01:09 AM UTC-4, yoyodog wrote:
> games moving forward, they'll continue to be a winning team. But their
> current pace of 2.48 goals per game just isn't good enough. It needs to be
> improved upon.
 
I think the Habs spend too much time counter punching rather then going for the jugular. They need to go to the net quicker once crossing the blueline, they lose any clear lanes to the net when they think perimeter passing first. No use having Eller or Bourque lug the puck across the blue line, because if they don`t go right to the net, they lack the playmaking skills to pass to open linemates, leading to more time on defence then sustained offence. Let Subban lug the puck more, they seem to be holding him back.
 
I do not understand why MT is hesitant to put Sekac and Bournival into the lineup. If they are trying to showcase Moen, he has enough history in the NHL, platooning him will not hurt his market value
Jim Bauch <j.bauch@ca.rr.com>: Oct 31 08:29AM -0700

On Friday, October 31, 2014 8:01:09 AM UTC-7, yoyodog wrote:
> Paraphrased from
> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2247297-5-stats-that-should-make-the-montreal-canadiens-worried-moving-forward/page/2
 
Weird article. I was expecting to see "good" statistics that aren't sustainable. But instead the article is pointing to the "bad" statistics and suggesting that yes, if you go all season with a power play under 10% it would be very bad.
 
With the exception of the last one (goals), these are not things that worry me at all, because they seem like "bad" unsustainable trends. These are reasons why the Habs should get "better," not worse!
 
The power play is not going to go 9.4% for the season.
 
The Habs are not going to end up the league's most penalized team.
 
The other two (bad first periods and giving up the first goal) are essentially the same point, and while they aren't necessarily bound to change, there's a compensating flip side (great third periods and coming back from a deficit). And I see no basis other than willful pessimism to say that the Habs can't possibly keep up the latter but we should worry they'll keep up the former.
 
The lack of scoring is a legitimate concern -- the Habs just don't have much margin for error in terms of Price being less than great -- but even there the fact that they've been able to score when trailing in the third period (exactly when the opposition is trying hardest to shut them down) is encouraging.
 
Jim
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